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चूक नेमकी कोणाची ?



स्थळ कर्वे रस्ता -

सायंकाळी साडेपाच-पावणेसहाचा सुमार। कर्वे रस्त्यावरील महर्षी कर्वे दूरध्वनी केंद्रासमोरचे ठिकाण। एका वृद्ध जोडप्याला रस्ता ओलांडायचा आहे... एका विद्यार्थिनीने त्यांना रस्ता ओलांडायला मदत केली। .......दुभाजक ओलांडून आजोबा दुभाजकाला चिकटूनच पुढील रस्ता रिकामा होण्याच्या प्रतीक्षेत उभे होते... तोच एक मोटार त्यांच्या जवळून गेली आणि बिचकल्याने आजोबांचा तोल गेला। दुभाजकाला अडखळून ते मागे कोसळले।



आघात आणि आधार

सुदैवाने त्या वेळी तेथून एकही वाहन जात नव्हते। इतर विद्यार्थ्यांनी लगेचच त्यांना उठण्यासाठी मदत केली। पुण्यातील रस्ते ओलांडणेही किती जिकिरीचे झाले आहे, याबाबतची छायाचित्रे घेण्यासाठीच "सकाळ'चे छायाचित्रकार मंदार देशपांडे तेथे गेले होते। हे दांपत्य "धक्‍क्‍या'तून सावरल्यावर देशपांडे यांनी त्यांना घरी जाण्यासाठी रिक्षाही करून दिली।


चूक नेमकी कोणाची?

वृद्ध नागरिकांना सुरक्षितपणे रस्ता ओलांडता यावा, एवढीही काळजी न घेणाऱ्या महापालिकेची...अशी सोय नसतानाही तो ओलांडू पाहणाऱ्या आजोबांची, की रस्ता ओंलाडण्यासाठी उभ्या असलेल्या ज्येष्ठ नागरिकांची पर्वा नसलेल्या अतिघाईतील वाहनांची...?

29 comments:

  1. Anonymous said...
     

    same incident karve road var ch mi baghitalay , Bank Of Baroda chya samor ek aaji cross karatana to divider olandatana dusarya bajucha rasta jast khali hota , to andaz na alyane padalya

  2. mrs. sunita bhamare said...
     

    amhi sadhya americetil new jersey hya shaharat rahato. ethli signal yantrana khup prabhavi aahe. ethe signal milalyashivay konihi rasta olandat nahi. fakt zebra crossing varunch rasta olandaycha asto. vahanchalak sudha signal modat nahi, karan video camere basavile astat. signal jar chukun modala tar dusrya kshanala police tithe hazar astat. ani mag basnara dand ha na paravadnara asto, ani to bharavach lagto. tyamule signal koni modat nahi. dusare mhanje shala sutlyavar, prateyk chowkat police ubhe astat. shaletil mulana hatala dharun rasta olandun detat. tyamule kahi kalaji naste. kharach aahe ki nahi lajawab yantrana!

  3. Advait said...
     

    first thing first (nice topic to discuss)as seen in photo it needs more unbiased vision.

    1. place from where old person crossing the road is not suppose to be the place to cross the roads. so its definate mistake of that person.

    2. as commented if those students helping him to cross the road then those students badly need so social education about road crossing, public and there safety.

    3. these students not only risking there life but also of others. now when they don't follow the rules what is expected when they will start driving.

    finally i'll think in this case entirly its a mistake of people.
    maintaining proper demarketed public crossing is governments responcibility but to use it is publics responcibilty.

  4. Advait said...
     

    now you look at the results.

    everyone is saying its responcibility of PMC. i would like to ask why ?

    why everytime we just blame someone else. (specially gov.)

    they trying to do whatever is best, but we should know that its not something like magic which will happen in one day. but why don't we try to support it by following rules (this includes drivers also)

    and finally a short question to Mr. Deshpande

    you were at the spot reporting something but Incidence happened in front of you.

    why wouldn't you as a responcible person and REPORTER stopped the person beforehand if you would have realized the mistake ?

  5. vijay patil said...
     

    Mr. adviat,
    u askaed to mr. Deshpande why wouldn't you as a responcible person and REPORTER stopped the person beforehand if you would have realized the mistake ?
    but, u dont know mr. deshpande went there show this problem to public. he do his best for help them and also put it infront of pubice. so we can talk abut it. it is not his mistek.

  6. vijay patil said...
     

    Mr. adviat,
    u askaed to mr. Deshpande why wouldn't you as a responcible person and REPORTER stopped the person beforehand if you would have realized the mistake ?
    but, u dont know mr. deshpande went there show this problem to public. he do his best for help them and also put it infront of pubice. so we can talk abut it. it is not his mistek.

  7. vijay patil said...
     

    Mr. adviat,
    u askaed to mr. Deshpande why wouldn't you as a responcible person and REPORTER stopped the person beforehand if you would have realized the mistake ?
    but, u dont know mr. deshpande went there show this problem to public. he do his best for help them and also put it infront of pubice. so we can talk abut it. it is not his mistek.

  8. Advait said...
     

    so Mr. patil what you think is only report is the duty of responcible person or a reporter ?

    if so then is there in difference between "sabse tej" and responcible reporting.

    i agree coz of him we can discuss this thing here but if you look more closely its entirly a plying with someones life.

    and just to have a topic to chat is not a way of reporting as far as i think

  9. Vishwesh Pavnaskar said...
     

    Chuk purnapane Aji, Ajoba ani tya Mulanchich.Tethe zebra crossing nastana tyani rasta olandanyacha prayatna ka kela??
    Chorana pakadnari Bal vikas shaletli mule kuthe ani hya Aji Ajobana dhokyat ghalnari mule kuthe?? Mazya mahnnyanusar aji ajobani Kiman zebracrossing varun tari rasta cross karayala hava hota? ani jar tyana chalwat navate tar te circus karun rasta cross ka karayala gele??
    Vishwesh Pavnaskar

  10. PM, Riverside, CA said...
     

    I will say, it is more responsibility of the kids and people around there to follow the safety and advice old Aajoba to not to cross the road at the divider. This picture is a perfect reflection of our past and horrible future. Aajoba lived their life and trying to cope with this ever changing today. What is the % of the other people crossing the road at the divider over the old people doing the same? Very high right? Then let's target this mass generation and educate them about the road safety. Government need to encourage road safety and enforce rules and regulations for both the pedestrian as well as the drivers. We cannot change the past but sure can build a safe future.

    Also, As Mrs. Sunita said, I would encourage the "crossing guard" to help people crossing the road and educate them about safety.

    What is crossing guard?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_guard

  11. Pradnya said...
     

    Currently I stay at sunnyvale, ca. I have been here only for last 10 months and it is not the case that I am USA fan, rather I am proud to be a puneit. Proud, but exactly for what ? for such incidents..Indeed, no. Then I feel ashamed of myself. I can see here in my daytoday life respect for the pedestrians and also rules, that pedestrians needs to follow and the whole system is very effectful. I can see the value of man's life, do we really have this value, especially in pune?

    Who had made this system here in USA, that I don't know but I can see everybody, even indians following that. Because everybody knows that if they break the sysytem,then they will get sued what we call it punished.. Everybody is scared of this punishment and this is the beauty of this system.

    Can we hope that someday this will happen in Pune ? We, citizens of pune and our municipalty will walk together in the path of safety, security of ours, only ours.

  12. rajabhau said...
     

    PEDESTRIANS SHOULD CROSS AT TRAFFIC SIGNAL. IT LOOKS AJOBA TRIED TO CROSS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. IN PUNE HOWEVER YOU ARE NOT SAFE EVEN AT THE TRAFFIC CROSSING SIGNAL!

  13. Anonymous said...
     

    Its the Mistake of that Senior Citizen. & I think that children are also not aware of the traffic rules.

    I request Sakal to Favour the Lawful & not just placing the pic & putting the good Headline in news paper. Dont get the sympathi of the reader by supporting wrong cause.

  14. Anonymous said...
     

    obviously it is that old person's mistake. it was good to see that kids were helping him but those kids must learn that roads should not be crossed at divider. whats the use of zebra crossing then ?? this is high time now. when are we going to educate ourselves and obey the law ?? people in under developed countries are better than puniets at following the rules. not only other countries, but there are other cities in India where traffic rules are obeyed. this is the only thing that i really hate about pune ! to make things better :-

    1. stirict implemntation of rules. if you make mistake your vehicle will be kept in the police station for 2 days. there is no point in collecting fine. nowadays people dont mind paying 50 or 100 bucks.
    2. stop those license agents. let people go on their own for license. let them write a test which tests about traffic rules and then give driving test.
    3. traffic rules and regulations should be a subject in schools. this is really needed today in order to make sure that current generation makes a better Pune tomorrow.

  15. Anonymous said...
     

    Aparimit vadhanari lokasankhya,economy growth chya navakhali karan nasatana vadhnari vahananchi sankhya,uttam public transport chi vanava,ugachach nasaleli srimanti dakhavayacha sos ani tyamule karan nasatana kelela vahanacha vapar,policeancha bhrashtachar. Kiti mhanun karane dyavit? Bare, he konala kalat nahi ka? Kalate pan valat nahi.Ek tar khajagi gadyansathichya petrol chi kimat 1000 rupaye litre karavi,kinva license 25 varshanantarach dyave.

  16. Andy K said...
     

    Chook Ajobanchi aahe. Shivay Shaletlya mulana traffic rules chi nemaki mahiti nahi.

  17. Aryan said...
     

    PUNYA MADHE SADHYA JI VAHATUKI CHI SAMASYA AHE, TYASATHI PRASHASAN SARVASVI JABABDAR AHE, ASE MALA VATATE. KARAN, PUNE VADHANARE, MOTHE HONARE SHAHAR AHE, HI GOSHTA LAKSHAT NA GHETA, SWATACHYA SWARTHA SATHI PRASHASAN VAGAT AHE.

    ATTA JI KAHI PARISTHITI AHE, TILA VELICH AVAR GHATALA NAHI, TAR BHAVISHYAT KHUP GAMBHIR PRASHNA UBHE RAHANAR AHET, HE RAJYA KARTYANI LAKSHAT GHYAYALA HAVE.

  18. Anonymous said...
     

    mala asa vatata ki ha jo incident dakhavila aahe hyat aajobanchich chuk jasta aahe. Vahatuk samasya sodavinyacha mahanagarpalika prayatna karit aahe ani tyasathich ase mothe raste dubhajak ghatale aahe ase mala vatate, ki jenekarun lokanni madhech kuthehi vatel tithe raste cross karu nayet. Nehami mahanagarpalikela doshi tharavun kasa chalel? nagarikanni suddha jababdari ghetali pahije. Signal na palanare vahanchalak, kuthehi rasta olandanare padachari, veg maryada na palane hya goshti sadhya punyat khup vadhalya aahet. dararoj vadhanari vahananchi sankhya lakshat gheta aapanach aapalyala shista lavayachi garaj nirman zali aahe tevha pratyekane aapalya pasunach suruvat karun pahayala kay harakat aahe, nahi ka?

  19. Sachin said...
     

    Mala ase watte ki, hya ekacha prasangaat konachi chuk ahe he baghne ani tyavar kuthlihi conclusions/nirnaay kadhane he CHUK tharel.

    Ha 1 prasang ani ase ya purvi ghadlele aanek prasang, sarkhi ekacha goshta suchavaat ahet ki aapan nivdun dileli lok ani tyanni aapalyala dileli Civic System hi ekakhadya Magasalelya Deshala Shobhel ashi ahe.

    Aaj aapalya Deshaat mukhyata 2 issues/prashna ahet ase mhanata yeil...ani punyatahi te donhi prashna distaatacha.
    1. Ekhadya Garib deshala shobhel ashya Civic systems
    2.Lokkan madhil Poor Self-Discipline Kinva BeShista Lok

    He donhi prashna goverment ni sodavayache asataat he government madhil lokkanna Aathavun dyayachi vel kevhacha ali ahe.

    Hyavar ekhada Political Manus mhanel ki, lokkana shista lavanyache anek prayog zale pan lok sudharaat nahit.

    Pan Lok Sudharat nahit, tar yogya te Shasaan kara ani tumahala hava to result milva.

    Pan aapalyakde eka chowkaat shista lavne chalu aste ani tithunacha 2 chowk palikade traffic police traffic chukavalelya lokkanna paise ghevun sodaat asataat. Ashya paddhatine shista lavli jau shakat nahi.

    Hyacha ekacha artha hou shakato ki Shista Lavnari Lokacha mhanaje Sarkar barecha thikani Kami padate ahe.

    hya vishayavar lihu ani bolu titke kamicha ahe. Prashna itkya Guntaguntiche ahet ki tyavar solution pan soppi nahiyet. Pan tari suddha ek changli suruwaat karayachya drushtine ase watte ki, Nivadanuki madhe nivdun dileli lok he EDUCATED CHA ASLI PAHIJET....nustya Gundagardi ani paishyachya joravaar nivdun geleli lok kaay system denar.

  20. Anonymous said...
     

    I guess this is fault of everybody.

    1) the OLD couple - They didn't cross the road using ZEBRA CROSSING.

    2) AUTO drivers (3 wheelers)- Who were not ready to rent for a short distance.

    3) Shool Children - Who were doing the same mistake while helping the Couple by not crossing the Road properly.

    4) the traffic - Which is never ready to stop even if someone is being killed.

    5) the Municiple Corporation - WHO NEVER CARES FOR THE PEOPLE. NEVER works towards improving the city infrastructure. Never willing to work hard. Never co-operates. Only interested in scandles and grabbing money from innocient people.

  21. pashya said...
     

    It happended because of faulty divider. Why divider is not high enough to restrict people to cross road fom there? Actually it was tempting people by being just one foot high. When we know that people don't follow rules, we need to enforce these things.
    For those who are in US:
    I am sure if this Aaji-Aajoba and kids go to US and be there for some time, they will appreciate importance of following rules and will follow it. Unless you experience it yourself, you can appreciate it.

  22. Swapnaja said...
     

    Mi usla gele hote tewha mi tithali cross karanyachi ani generally traffic system baghatali.Etak systematic ani safe ahe sagal.I was really imprssed. Tithe payi chalnarya lokana first preference dila jato ani lokhi vahatukiche niyam agadi chokh paltat.
    Mala vatat aplykade etak high end nasal tari basic goshti signal palane, zebra crossing vaparane sakhya tar nakkich hou shakatat.
    Ani dar veles gadi chalvnaryanchich chuk aste asa nahi. Lok bindaast signal green asatana saral haat dakhavun cross karatat.
    Vahan chalak and padcharyani apale palae niyam neet palale tar pharak nakkich padu shakel.

  23. tukuk said...
     

    Etar baryach goshtit apan Americechi copy karto tar tithalya aplyach faydyacha goshtiche anukaran jarur karayla have !Specially trafic rule palnya babt.Shist palne hi pratek mansachi savay zhai pahije.

  24. Samir said...
     

    Amachyaweles he ase nawhate ase fakt mhaNayache asate. beshista paNa ha sudhdha puNyachya anek sanskrutik warashan paiki aahe. tumhi lok^ ugacch baau karata. :))

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  26. Pramod said...
     

    Hi there, I am from New Zealand and its shame on you Indians to make these incidents happen. You follow western culture like your mother tounge, but incase of traffic and road code no body pays attention on its improvment.
    Thats why Britishers are the most telented people on the planet and Indians are the most idiots they dont know whats harmfull and whats not where to improve and what to follow and what not.
    Why in India there is no:
    1. Road code to follow
    2. No proper road transport management to make "stop" and "give ways" etc.

    Getting Drivers licence is the place from where corruption starts. people think by paying bribe its less hectic rather than following stupid rules and availing licence but next day maybe the same idiot either hits someone or get hittted by someone.

    I've seen most of the Indians has to attempt exam twice or thrise to get full drivers licence, why because he had never paid attention in India while driving to follow and he dont know why to stop at stop sign when theres no vehicle coming from either side or why to stop at stop sign at midnight when the roads are deserted and noones there to watch you. Its not because of camera and all its all in the blood to follow becacuse the rules are made by us and for our benifits.
    Pramod Pawar

  27. Sagar said...
     

    First thing I want to ask is why MNC has removed big fence from the karve rd.
    Second thing is though those idiots did that mistake, WHY WE IDIOTS DOING THE SECOND MISTAKE? by crossing the rd where there is no zebra-crossing.

    PLZ .. plz ... do not cross the rd in such a way. Who will care whoes mistake it was once you get hurt. It is ur own resposibility to follow the rules.

  28. Maazisena said...
     

    सुंदर दिसणारं हरिण पाहुन रामायणातिल सितेला देखिल आपला मोह आवरता आला नव्ह्ता, त्यामुळे सगळ रामायण घड्लं.
    अतिशय सुंदर अशा कल्पना करुन कारपोरेशन रस्त्याची कामे करते,पण तांत्रिक बाबी आणि लहान मुलांपासुन -वयस्क मंड्ळींचा विचार न करता कामे केली जातात.याचा परिणाम रोजच आपण पेपरमद्दे वाचत असतो.
    I want to give some valuable points over the same topic.
    1.रामायणातिल हरिणा सारखे रस्ते पहिल्यांदा निट करुन घेण्याची गरज आहे. त्यामुळे लोक आपला मोह आवरतिल आणि त्यामुळे काही दुर्रघटना टळ्तील. (Divider वरचं गवत ,गुड्घ्याखालचे Divider,जाळी नसणे )
    2.All zebra-crossing, Divider length & width, road crossing space between two spaces must be equal e.g. 500meter in croweded city area.
    3. Provide some disply board to cross road Zebra-crossing cumpolsorry & Dont cross road from any other places.
    4.vehicle should stoped away from zebra crossing & it should be checked by traffice police. beacuse we dont expecting this activity from people.

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